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+From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>
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+This morning I've been pondering on the following question: should I

+try to achieve "ready for others to use" as soon as possible, or

+should I concentrate on making sure all existing functionality is of

+high quality?

+

+The big difference is that the former would hopefully result in

+contributions from others sooner, the latter is would hopefully avoid

+a deluge of bug reports.

+

+I am leaning towards the former. Perfectionism is good, but it makes

+things take a really long time and if things take too long, I get de-

+motivated. "Write shit, but fix it quickly."

+

+So what would it take for ick to be ready for others to use? Note that

+it doesn't have to be perfect, it needs to work just well enough that

+others are able to do at least something useful with it.

+

+Here's my list, and I would appreciate feedback on this. Quick first

+reactions are fine, no need to polish and do deep thinking.

+

+* ick builds and publishes its own .deb packages. Presumably

+this=3DC2=3DA0

+=C2=A0 would mean others can do the same for their own projects.

+

+* Ick has at least a rudimentary notification system. The current

+=C2=A0 approach is to run "watch icktool status" and that's not really

+=C2=A0 good enough. Notification by email would be enough, I think.

+

+* Uses Qvisqve for authentication. The current approach of having

+=C2=A0 every API client create its own access tokens is silly.

+

+* ick constructs a build graph of all pipelines at the starts of

+a=3DC2=3DA0

+=C2=A0 build. This means that it won't be necessary to trigger each

+=C2=A0 pipeline by hand and opens up a future where executing different

+=C2=A0 actions concurrently on different workes is a possibility.

+

+* ick can do incremental builds by populating the workspace from=3DC2=3DA0

+=C2=A0 previous build. This means that if one source file changes, it's

+=C2=A0 no longer necessary to do a full build.

+

+What do you all think? Is there something you can think of that ick

+must do before you'd be willing to give it a try?
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