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boundary="===============0154928674000949269==" +Mime-version: 1.0 +Sender: obnam-dev-bounces@obnam.org +Errors-To: obnam-dev-bounces@obnam.org + +--===============0154928674000949269== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f2fc895e2520548047c55 + +--001a113f2fc895e2520548047c55 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote: + +> On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 12:34:07PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: +> > One idea I just had -- but I don't know if that is feasible to implement: +> > you could (internally!) have obnam "write" both the "current" and the +> > "Green Albatross" formats, and then every "read" operation would read +> > both of them, and compare that they return the same data. Then have +> > obnam complain if that doesn't match (with the "current" format's data +> > then taking precedence, I think). Obviously, that will add a lot of +> > overhead for every repository access, but any users willing to take that +> > can then easily help testing the "Green Albatross" format. But I don't +> > know if the repository abstraction in obnam is sufficiently generic for +> > being able to deal with two underlying repository formats, etc. +> +> I fear it'd make things so slow nobody would actually use this, even +> for testing. It'd mean obnam was making two backups at the same time. +> + +You could start two obnam instances parallelly :D + +--001a113f2fc895e2520548047c55 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +

= +On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> wrote:<= +br>
On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at = +12:34:07PM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
+> One idea I just had -- but I don't know if that is feasible to imp= +lement:
+> you could (internally!) have obnam "write" both the "cu= +rrent" and the
+> "Green Albatross" formats, and then every "read" o= +peration would read
+> both of them, and compare that they return the same data.=C2=A0 Then h= +ave
+> obnam complain if that doesn't match (with the "current"= + format's data
+> then taking precedence, I think).=C2=A0 Obviously, that will add a lot= + of
+> overhead for every repository access, but any users willing to take th= +at
+> can then easily help testing the "Green Albatross" format.= +=C2=A0 But I don't
+> know if the repository abstraction in obnam is sufficiently generic fo= +r
+> being able to deal with two underlying repository formats, etc.
+
+I fear it'd make things so slow nobody would actually use this, = +even
+for testing. It'd mean obnam was making two backups at the same time.

You could start t= +wo obnam instances parallelly :D

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