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What problem does this solve?= + +>>> cliapp needs to be installed anyway, since obnamlib imports it. +>> The problem is that setuptools will not install the dependencies befor= +e it +>> reaches the setup() function call that tells it what they are. If you +>> import/use cliapp before that, the script will never reach it. +> Obnam's setup.py does "import obnamlib" and obnamlib imports cliapp. +> If you don't have cliapp imported, you can't run setup.py. +I see. 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charset=windows-1252 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On 7/24/16 05:57, Lars Wirzenius wrote: +> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 02:10:36PM -0400, R=E9mi Rampin wrote: +>> setuptools has become a standard for Python packages and if people +>> have pip +>> installed, you can assume they have setuptools. In particular, setupto= +ols +>> is recommended by the Packaging User Guide [1]. +> Oh good, yet another build depenendy, then. +Moving things out of the standard library is how the Python ecosystem +supports software. Everything else already depends on setuptools, and +pip comes with it. I'm not sure it is that much of an issue, but if you +do, this patch can definitely be reworked a little bit; keep in mind +that on every system out there, this will still use setuptools, since +pip monkey-patches distutils to call setuptools. +> I don't feel that's a thing I care to support. If we are to have that +> line, then at least it needs to have a comment to explain it. +> +> If that use case for setup.py is something that should be supported, +> it should be supported by setuptools directly, not by inserting code +> into every setup.py file ever written. +I'm sorry if I haven't been clear on this. setuptools and pip totally +support this, your custom commands do not. If you don't use relative +paths in your code, that assumes that the current directory is the one +where setup.py lives, this line becomes unnecessary. +> I don't particularly care about the name on PyPI. It's a flat +> namespace, and this is one of the problems that results from that. +> +> However, since there's no point in putting in any of this PyPI support +> into Obnam before its dependencies, I am afraid I'm going to drop this +> now. +> +> I do not like PyPI, and I do not like anything about how the Python +> community distributes code. I don't want to have to deal with it, and +> this thread has already exceeded my tolerance level for PyPI. +Got it. The patches are here if someone else wants to do that. 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