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What problem does this solve? +> cliapp needs to be installed anyway, since obnamlib imports it. +> + +The problem is that setuptools will not install the dependencies before it +reaches the setup() function call that tells it what they are. If you +import/use cliapp before that, the script will never reach it. + +--=20 +R=C3=A9mi + +--001a1141eeaccde3630537601878 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +
2016= +-07-11 13:41 EDT, Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>:
Why drop cliapp from the setup.py file? What problem does thi= +s solve?
+cliapp needs to be installed anyway, since obnamlib imports it.
+

The p= +roblem is that setuptools will not install the dependencies before it reach= +es the setup() function call that tells it what they are. If you import/use= + cliapp before that, the script will never reach it.

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boundary="===============8231436484046287495==" +Mime-version: 1.0 +Sender: obnam-dev-bounces@obnam.org +Errors-To: obnam-dev-bounces@obnam.org + +--===============8231436484046287495== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114060be686bb8053760135f + +--001a114060be686bb8053760135f +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +2016-07-11 13:45 EDT, Lars Wirzenius : + +> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:31:41AM -0400, Remi Rampin wrote: +> > -from distutils.core import setup, Extension +> > +from setuptools import setup, Extension +> +> Can you explain why using setuptools instead of distutils? Let's +> assume I am quite ignorant about PyPI and pip and the various Python +> attemmpts at build tools. +> + +setuptools has become a standard for Python packages and if people have pip +installed, you can assume they have setuptools. In particular, setuptools +is recommended by the Packaging User Guide [1]. + +> +os.chdir(os.path.abspath(os.path.dirname(__file__))) +> +> Why is this line needed? +> + +If running the setup.py script from another working directory (pip install +doesn't do that, but when using -e or calling it manually it can happen), +the installation will fail. I just put this in all the time. Else you would +have to fix all the subprocess calls and file opens to compute the correct +path (i.e. calling git-ls-files, opening files in generate_troff...) + +You said the larch name has been taken by another project in PyPI. I +> assume that means the above reference to larch needs to be changed. +> +> Which reminds me: I guess this Obnam PyPi/pip preparation isn't really +> useful until the dependencies are on PyPI already? + + +Yes, all of the dependencies would have to be put there. I didn't rename +larch yet because I didn't know what to rename it to (larch is taken [2] +but not python-larch, ...) + +[1]: https://packaging.python.org/current/#packaging-tool-recommendations +[2]: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/larch + +Best +--=20 +R=C3=A9mi + +--001a114060be686bb8053760135f +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +
2016= +-07-11 13:45 EDT, Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>:
= +On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:31:41AM -0400, Remi Rampin wrot= +e:
+> -from distutils.core import setup, Extension
+> +from setuptools import setup, Extension
+
+Can you explain why using setuptools instead of distutils? Let's= +
+assume I am quite ignorant about PyPI and pip and the various Python
+attemmpts at build tools.

setuptools ha= +s become a standard for Python packages and if people have pip installed, y= +ou can assume they have setuptools. In particular, setuptools is recommende= +d by the Packaging User Guide [1].

>= +; +os.chdir(os.path.abspath(os.path.dirname(__file__)))
+
+Why is this line needed?

If running the= + setup.py script from another working directory (pip install doesn't do= + that, but when using -e or calling it manually it can happen), the install= +ation will fail. I just put this in all the time. Else you would have to fi= +x all the subprocess calls and file opens to compute the correct path (i.e.= + calling git-ls-files, opening files in generate_troff...)

You said the larch name has been taken by another proj= +ect in PyPI. I
+assume that means the above reference to larch needs to be changed.
+
+Which reminds me: I guess this Obnam PyPi/pip preparation isn't really<= +br> +useful until the dependencies are on PyPI already?

Yes, all of the dependencies would have to be put there. I didn'= +;t rename larch yet because I didn't know what to rename it to (larch i= +s taken [2] but not python-larch, ...)

[1]:=C2=A0https://packaging.python.org/current/#packaging= +-tool-recommendations
[2]:=C2=A0https://pypi.python.org/pypi/larch<= +/a>

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