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All looks good to me, but I do have a +question about a specific point you raised: + +On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 12:42:46PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: +> I don't see a need to do the reverse hook for restoring. + +Why? + +Aside from the design elegance that round-tripping has in general, +without the converse mapping people would be unable to just restore a +system in place. Not that one *usually* does that, but even if you +restore in a temp dir having the content of that dir being isomorphic to +the file-system part it comes from is really handy. + +Same goes for timestamps, with the added disadvantage that they would be +even more difficult to fix upon restore. + +It is true that with round-tripping you'll go down the rabbit hole of +whether you offer a mangling API that *guarantees* round-tripping (which +would be probably awkward) or just expect users to do that themselves +(and then allow users to shoot themselves in the foot). But round +tripping still seems to me the obvious right way to go here. What am I +missing? Maybe some intrinsic difficulty related to how obnam works +internally? + +Cheers. +-- +Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . zack@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o +Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o +Former Debian Project Leader . . . . . @zacchiro . . . . o o o . . . o . +« the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » + +_______________________________________________ +obnam-dev mailing list +obnam-dev@obnam.org +http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obnam-dev-obnam.org -- cgit v1.2.1