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+Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:02:47 +0300
+From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>
+To: "Neal H. Walfield" <neal@walfield.org>
+Message-ID: <20170801090247.ertuoymzslxy5omj@liw.fi>
+References: <87o9s3ty9x.wl-neal@walfield.org>
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+Subject: Re: Migrating old backups to obnam
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+On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 05:24:38PM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote:
+> Two anecdotes:
+>=20
+>   - In 2003, I took some nice pictures.  Several years later, I looked
+>     at them and found that some were corrupted!  Unfortunately, the
+>     corruption was older than my oldest backup at the time.  This was
+>     in the days prior to 'zfs scrub'.
+>=20
+>   - A few weeks ago, I realized that some files were inadvertently
+>     deleted in 2014.  Using my old backups, I was able to restore
+>     them.
+
+That explains why want to keep old backups, but that's not in
+question. Why do you want to convert them to Obnam? Why not keep old
+backups the way they are and only make new backups with Obnam?
+
+--=20
+I want to build worthwhile things that might last. --joeyh
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+From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>
+To: "Neal H. Walfield" <neal@walfield.org>
+Message-ID: <20170801090119.meqpgfbww3ggyone@liw.fi>
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+On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 05:28:01PM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote:
+> Unfortunately, it is cheap to send data, but expensive to read it.  If
+> I correctly understand how obnam works, then obnam does a lot of
+> reading to compare data even if nothing has changed.  (If that's not
+> true, then please correct me!)
+
+Obnam compares the file metadata (owner, group, mtime, size, etc) to
+decide there's a need to make a backup. Reading through all the files
+on every backup run would be so slow it'd be silly to do it that way.
+
+--=20
+I want to build worthwhile things that might last. --joeyh
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