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+Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 17:24:38 +0200
+Message-ID: <87tw1shbnt.wl-neal@walfield.org>
+From: "Neal H. Walfield" <neal@walfield.org>
+To: Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>
+In-Reply-To: <20170729131903.57xsiavlluujrcmd@liw.fi>
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+Subject: Re: Migrating old backups to obnam
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+On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:19:03 +0200,
+Lars Wirzenius wrote:
+> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:58:34AM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote:
+> > I'd like to add my old backups to my obnam repository.
+> 
+> Why?
+
+Two anecdotes:
+
+  - In 2003, I took some nice pictures.  Several years later, I looked
+    at them and found that some were corrupted!  Unfortunately, the
+    corruption was older than my oldest backup at the time.  This was
+    in the days prior to 'zfs scrub'.
+
+  - A few weeks ago, I realized that some files were inadvertently
+    deleted in 2014.  Using my old backups, I was able to restore
+    them.
+
+> >   - The time of the backup will be the current time.  My tests suggest
+> >     that using faketime tricks obnam at least with respect to 'obnam
+> >     generations', but perhaps there are other places where this might
+> >     be a problem.
+> 
+> See the --pretend-time option in Obnam, there for tests.
+
+Thanks!
+
+> >   - The absolute path will be wrong.  That is, I normally backup
+> >     /home, but I don't want to restore by old backups to /home,
+> >     because I need to keep using my NAS during the migration :).  Is
+> >     there a way to fake the path so that obnam ls show /home instead
+> >     of /restore?
+> 
+> There is no way to fake this in Obnam. It would be possible to add a
+> hook that a plugin could use to transmogrify pathnames, but I've never
+> been bothered enough to do that. If you do, please send a patch. :)
+
+I'll probably live with it as is, thanks!
+
+> >   - Generations will be "out of order".  I imagine this could be a
+> >     problem with respect to aging.  For instance, if obnam assumes
+> >     that a numerically larger generation is necessarily younger.  Is
+> >     something like this the case?  If so, then I guess the simpliest
+> >     solution is to migrate the backups in order.
+> 
+> Do them in order, yes.
+
+Ok!
+
+:) Neal
+
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+On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 13:06:20 +0200,
+SanskritFritz wrote:
+> If you had enough space on the offsite system, you can upload the whole repo and then later you just have to
+> incrementally rsync the difference. I don't think Obnam sports such a feature to actually split a repo.
+
+Thanks for the suggestion.  But, I suspect that 'zfs send' is probably
+better (zfs send doesn't have to stat every file to find differences).
+
+:) Neal
+
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