From 987dc430284d4062da029ec314ecc2d06f0fb05b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: distix ticketing system Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:05:24 +0000 Subject: imported mails --- .../Maildir/new/1501578323.M172415P19901Q1.koom | 136 +++++++++++++++++++++ .../Maildir/new/1501578323.M410285P19901Q2.koom | 130 ++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 266 insertions(+) create mode 100644 tickets/c14ec422d4d74aaca6dd36ea1905dced/Maildir/new/1501578323.M172415P19901Q1.koom create mode 100644 tickets/eea0e58a8b7a4b0b985b21046e139ccc/Maildir/new/1501578323.M410285P19901Q2.koom diff --git a/tickets/c14ec422d4d74aaca6dd36ea1905dced/Maildir/new/1501578323.M172415P19901Q1.koom b/tickets/c14ec422d4d74aaca6dd36ea1905dced/Maildir/new/1501578323.M172415P19901Q1.koom new file mode 100644 index 0000000..296d4d3 --- /dev/null +++ b/tickets/c14ec422d4d74aaca6dd36ea1905dced/Maildir/new/1501578323.M172415P19901Q1.koom @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: distix@pieni.net +Delivered-To: distix@pieni.net +Received: from yaffle.pepperfish.net (yaffle.pepperfish.net [88.99.213.221]) + by pieni.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 749DD43838 + for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:03:01 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from platypus.pepperfish.net (unknown [10.112.101.20]) + by yaffle.pepperfish.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5874E4186C; + Tue, 1 Aug 2017 10:03:01 +0100 (BST) +Received: from ip6-localhost.nat ([::1] helo=platypus.pepperfish.net) + by platypus.pepperfish.net with esmtp (Exim 4.80 #2 (Debian)) + id 1dcT4v-0000Bp-B6; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:03:01 +0100 +Received: from [10.112.101.21] (helo=mx3.pepperfish.net) + by platypus.pepperfish.net with esmtps (Exim 4.80 #2 (Debian)) + id 1dcT4u-0000BH-4H + for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:03:00 +0100 +Received: from koom.pieni.net ([88.99.190.206] helo=pieni.net) + by mx3.pepperfish.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) + (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dcT4o-0005rW-LT + for obnam-support@obnam.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:03:00 +0100 +Received: from exolobe3.liw.fi (unknown [194.111.46.68]) + by pieni.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1266D43838; + Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:02:49 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from liw.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by exolobe3.liw.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 594DD121D26; + Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:02:48 +0300 (EEST) +Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:02:47 +0300 +From: Lars Wirzenius +To: "Neal H. Walfield" +Message-ID: <20170801090247.ertuoymzslxy5omj@liw.fi> +References: <87o9s3ty9x.wl-neal@walfield.org> + <20170729131903.57xsiavlluujrcmd@liw.fi> + <87tw1shbnt.wl-neal@walfield.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +In-Reply-To: <87tw1shbnt.wl-neal@walfield.org> +User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) +X-Pepperfish-Transaction: c703-253f-a8db-fac1 +X-Spam-Score: -3.4 +X-Spam-Score-int: -33 +X-Spam-Bar: --- +X-Scanned-By: pepperfish.net, Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:03:00 +0100 +X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-3.4 points) + pts rule name description + ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- + -0.5 PPF_USER_AGENT User-Agent: exists + -1.0 PPF_USER_AGENT_MUTT User-Agent: contains Mutt (Mutt isn't a spam + tool) + -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% + [score: 0.0000] +X-ACL-Warn: message may be spam +X-Scan-Signature: b5b6efd43804d51bf1f49b1dee60e806 +Cc: obnam-support +Subject: Re: Migrating old backups to obnam +X-BeenThere: obnam-support@obnam.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Obnam backup software discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3482716365506884307==" +Mime-version: 1.0 +Sender: obnam-support-bounces@obnam.org +Errors-To: obnam-support-bounces@obnam.org + + +--===============3482716365506884307== +Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; + protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dfeo7cys6tnpbasl" +Content-Disposition: inline + + +--dfeo7cys6tnpbasl +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 05:24:38PM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote: +> Two anecdotes: +>=20 +> - In 2003, I took some nice pictures. Several years later, I looked +> at them and found that some were corrupted! Unfortunately, the +> corruption was older than my oldest backup at the time. This was +> in the days prior to 'zfs scrub'. +>=20 +> - A few weeks ago, I realized that some files were inadvertently +> deleted in 2014. Using my old backups, I was able to restore +> them. + +That explains why want to keep old backups, but that's not in +question. Why do you want to convert them to Obnam? Why not keep old +backups the way they are and only make new backups with Obnam? + +--=20 +I want to build worthwhile things that might last. --joeyh + +--dfeo7cys6tnpbasl +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQIzBAABCgAdFiEETNTnrewG6wEE1EJ3bC+mFux6IDEFAlmAQ7YACgkQbC+mFux6 +IDGYxxAApThGTEKbzgVoSv83SmYoYyW9ZcZX3n1uUxCJ57X788JFklbVmMGIUJIy +QwVRzJ1AzWrOVjj9lOfeBNV3hhKrVrkZ4VH7wTpfTYMXlIY6Sm255w6v0McdwPzx +XvM8V6j8LIZFDypll5mghwghIxtR8QkCUgaRFm6m9mgImQ2V8P7HgWcBC5kqHy4H +KhBPCLeUaPc9PYX30LRZSWzHAfNLeni8rc4tE6viPqqBGBpQGNo3mLDKKZEbeMIz +34MZO32oFcTlxrJb6L2t9BVa3ugaFZQyAu+aiRgwzdRcoPWg9e319bT8Q4frAmYB +hSDwXgOZdejHLX5HGHfAa7fUxyFG/Ly/UnZ/JbMGjm1kYzDpOPtaGRBdpEGhSu4m +2LYPmEGBxxkItsXF+TnJ4sWZv/pthZ2LN85zUXOpIMfbAd0jOXLyQIlvOUV9112j +dyo33NSDiQ4kot1yavir726mT24YTvfY7J3kiiIvKR514v2RhRb/BZ5NRqPcCiDq +r6WscwXKeozPEfkfSZzBmHFyzCiumF7C16tfaC6TAG4FGKNuEn+iqJCNDi+b2Ewz +j2pMVc6JSDInbyogi8GYpOe8+3tI3igDtLD0WmANzL8ybkGe+ST8772EvJ77zcrO +2ZAznHyBP+n0z22cbYDO4q18UdGekz2S0HnGeLIQOe7HvhiY+7k= +=uyom +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--dfeo7cys6tnpbasl-- + + +--===============3482716365506884307== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +obnam-support mailing list +obnam-support@obnam.org +http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obnam-support-obnam.org + +--===============3482716365506884307==-- + diff --git a/tickets/eea0e58a8b7a4b0b985b21046e139ccc/Maildir/new/1501578323.M410285P19901Q2.koom b/tickets/eea0e58a8b7a4b0b985b21046e139ccc/Maildir/new/1501578323.M410285P19901Q2.koom new file mode 100644 index 0000000..a59c931 --- /dev/null +++ b/tickets/eea0e58a8b7a4b0b985b21046e139ccc/Maildir/new/1501578323.M410285P19901Q2.koom @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: distix@pieni.net +Delivered-To: distix@pieni.net +Received: from yaffle.pepperfish.net (yaffle.pepperfish.net [88.99.213.221]) + by pieni.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 921A3406A6 + for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:01:36 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from platypus.pepperfish.net (unknown [10.112.101.20]) + by yaffle.pepperfish.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E9941868; + Tue, 1 Aug 2017 10:01:36 +0100 (BST) +Received: from ip6-localhost.nat ([::1] helo=platypus.pepperfish.net) + by platypus.pepperfish.net with esmtp (Exim 4.80 #2 (Debian)) + id 1dcT3Y-0008VB-5v; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:01:36 +0100 +Received: from [10.112.101.21] (helo=mx3.pepperfish.net) + by platypus.pepperfish.net with esmtps (Exim 4.80 #2 (Debian)) + id 1dcT3W-0008Uo-Ev + for ; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:01:34 +0100 +Received: from koom.pieni.net ([88.99.190.206] helo=pieni.net) + by mx3.pepperfish.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) + (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dcT3P-0005qA-QX + for obnam-support@obnam.org; Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:01:34 +0100 +Received: from exolobe3.liw.fi (unknown [194.111.46.68]) + by pieni.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3B4F8406A6; + Tue, 1 Aug 2017 09:01:21 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from liw.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by exolobe3.liw.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D06A121D26; + Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:01:20 +0300 (EEST) +Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:01:19 +0300 +From: Lars Wirzenius +To: "Neal H. Walfield" +Message-ID: <20170801090119.meqpgfbww3ggyone@liw.fi> +References: <87mv7nty3v.wl-neal@walfield.org> + <20170729131625.rvfvel7d5vrl7hoo@liw.fi> + <87r2wwhbi6.wl-neal@walfield.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +In-Reply-To: <87r2wwhbi6.wl-neal@walfield.org> +User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) +X-Pepperfish-Transaction: 18c4-d7f1-32ae-d96e +X-Spam-Score: -3.4 +X-Spam-Score-int: -33 +X-Spam-Bar: --- +X-Scanned-By: pepperfish.net, Tue, 01 Aug 2017 10:01:34 +0100 +X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-3.4 points) + pts rule name description + ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- + -0.5 PPF_USER_AGENT User-Agent: exists + -1.0 PPF_USER_AGENT_MUTT User-Agent: contains Mutt (Mutt isn't a spam + tool) + -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% + [score: 0.0000] +X-ACL-Warn: message may be spam +X-Scan-Signature: 625f24d4d5a9233cab8b0380f6b09df7 +Cc: obnam-support +Subject: Re: Backups of backups +X-BeenThere: obnam-support@obnam.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Obnam backup software discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9088495317427069548==" +Mime-version: 1.0 +Sender: obnam-support-bounces@obnam.org +Errors-To: obnam-support-bounces@obnam.org + + +--===============9088495317427069548== +Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; + protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6sprfwx2pg5eedq7" +Content-Disposition: inline + + +--6sprfwx2pg5eedq7 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 05:28:01PM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote: +> Unfortunately, it is cheap to send data, but expensive to read it. If +> I correctly understand how obnam works, then obnam does a lot of +> reading to compare data even if nothing has changed. (If that's not +> true, then please correct me!) + +Obnam compares the file metadata (owner, group, mtime, size, etc) to +decide there's a need to make a backup. Reading through all the files +on every backup run would be so slow it'd be silly to do it that way. + +--=20 +I want to build worthwhile things that might last. --joeyh + +--6sprfwx2pg5eedq7 +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQIzBAABCgAdFiEETNTnrewG6wEE1EJ3bC+mFux6IDEFAlmAQ14ACgkQbC+mFux6 +IDFlyxAAnSmy25wxk3itlsaxoy5t6uYVM9Q6bGdD3GajxQVoJFNbU7KWbCIBiHdR +HwWRj3GtnhSUmpvaW1z3J83BxrI7a4HfETfWxqEVqtvZHFHr2bBjJj0Z/YCRNNWZ +19vzWHN3NNBVf8P34ZRiEAXqWvsUjBqbQedF3/rikLrNUXIQT0Q4bBrDi1Y5gCbq +hcmKl3b5PcxbUaJzD0QTaKRmInucqZebBbS5xTzuCzoXk+vJPYry3J4K/RFCVXXt +1QlglbdtP2nxS1WBsYLXemdrNn6dti9QMUFap/Ccj5GweyTDX16YKMfgEeqkhZGK +zxrQijwOn0P7IwV/pSiriZPM0F2xS956xmPmc6RoVPJh+EzftUPJV5nVbP3xsF2a +Y/MYXc8eH6bmVa7oVsEgezuRwBomkRfdsWsXSZtU7+4hkeGXco8Y986KmRaj8prB +8Ky+n6uMWbrDdwjjxZWRUIaFBSaqGjsyZULrLmNrsiGutvMpX1/i/1AhEvWShYEX +00mMrTVV5KuNjGZR/Ol/ncrhC/Kvw1LcBFU7qp0uEMAJO4lARZ0fSmEa8b/h+vDp +ogul6ZbUKlxNnYkugbVBIrPAw9C3oCG6KpZ3GzRdaMgx9OPGaN8Zku7I8KFAZitV +RuBkf0YVYz2dsm4PBtjuMMj+/zH5AqxZkxKiUPt9pjWF3+JQErw= +=7JwO +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--6sprfwx2pg5eedq7-- + + +--===============9088495317427069548== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +obnam-support mailing list +obnam-support@obnam.org +http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obnam-support-obnam.org + +--===============9088495317427069548==-- + -- cgit v1.2.1