Return-Path: X-Original-To: distix@pieni.net Delivered-To: distix@pieni.net Received: from yaffle.pepperfish.net (yaffle.pepperfish.net [88.99.213.221]) by pieni.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D87A41176 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from platypus.pepperfish.net (unknown [10.112.101.20]) by yaffle.pepperfish.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A669C418B0; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:04:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from ip6-localhost.nat ([::1] helo=platypus.pepperfish.net) by platypus.pepperfish.net with esmtp (Exim 4.80 #2 (Debian)) id 1daHJK-0006ls-Kc; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:04:50 +0100 Received: from [10.112.101.21] (helo=mx3.pepperfish.net) by platypus.pepperfish.net with esmtps (Exim 4.80 #2 (Debian)) id 1daHJJ-0006lg-I9 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:04:49 +0100 Received: from mail-yw0-f172.google.com ([209.85.161.172]) by mx3.pepperfish.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1daHJH-0000mx-Po for obnam-support@obnam.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:04:49 +0100 Received: by mail-yw0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x125so82820301ywa.0 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 01:04:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=KrUim48ic8A9iKSQQtyVwIbAsEQfPPdJS48kLdhHWMg=; b=kdD4HaJXsoBok4gEmoy+I5BlKxLHHCZ3vlhUD8Ru+YMnehGqV5YrlJz39ChF8mwOGu s2vF5qWtosnXkfVpofYcz91+wvGTjHg9w5hA0umFHPy3ubMEhNiELSZyCcb7Gn1rLUMx a7DnwWZDQc8yORY7zOUGWq78GDYQTIawtUpEk8VQPYykUcZsIEklSkmzMyD/7viylPdk h5JLJjSR2YbjMqO1w9PyTiDUXOAXbShCLhAKcjOPq/OdmxYgThBhp/vAq9E7s8w8dUb3 TbIgyDk/KnotesofJ/yNlpzDoldyt19ZTiYAN833KBJcJqTx3i7B88JI8nyJRprw9ByM iI8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=KrUim48ic8A9iKSQQtyVwIbAsEQfPPdJS48kLdhHWMg=; b=p+j4ELSktgagTtiFLQLX9p7l5fBmnD3+hMQGzHksX11wzJSq2KKyRZx7m5H1IH2CFO jkj5E6qc4PJIKXq7lxrueq+BFH+VNXnol+DStXGYL3pfRDKnckPE324tizmiTNUWvY+J dEUaBSSy6Y9ysbM/GGlXu62GexDIjApBnv8bNf2twmYS+XS5BNkT6I3K2tHBClAYkjV+ nbPM2Drn4DIlIQfxZ3eRw71qc3Jo40rDRI/9wzAZpX95eQUSSGWLsONeD3XtSGNjGcx8 0YwevPKjwsx27b6MkdhVkYHzEP3Drn9i6oYZ+OF/JSlaLoFQCwCrCQ3KwVRvUOK5rOah m0BA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw111gIKYwP9efpmYUm0azrbarfBayunZr1EP/zO3+ECD6sZui8j8p EiiTH5toKPEKxG6d8lO6NeNXzwhjuR367lk= X-Received: by 10.129.51.67 with SMTP id z64mr94876ywz.370.1501056276265; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 01:04:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.13.233.4 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jul 2017 01:04:35 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Martin_Ho=C3=9Fbach?= Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:04:35 +0200 Message-ID: To: obnam-support Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Pepperfish-Transaction: 8a24-0830-8a08-6047 X-Spam-Score: 2.2 X-Spam-Score-int: 22 X-Spam-Bar: ++ X-Scanned-By: pepperfish.net, Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:04:49 +0100 X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (2.2 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.5 PPF_RECEIVED_HTTP Received header mentions http 1.0 PPF_FROM_CONTAINS_MAIL The From header contains 'mail' 1.2 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mhossbach[at]gmail.com) -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.161.172 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.161.172 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.5 RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM RBL: SORBS: sender is a spam source [209.85.161.172 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders X-ACL-Warn: message may be spam X-Scan-Signature: 36255da145478f39910021db1d993052 Subject: GPG failing, Obnam killed X-BeenThere: obnam-support@obnam.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Obnam backup software discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: obnam-support-bounces@obnam.org Errors-To: obnam-support-bounces@obnam.org I keep running into weird behavior of obnam. I have a suspicion as to the cause, but I still have to ascertain that. For now, I'll describe what is happening, describe my suspicion and hopefully somebody else has seen that as well. Two things keep happening: * From time to time, without any obvious regularity, obnam simply shuts down. Output is "terminated", nothing else. I'm not sure in what state that leaves the repository, though. * From time to time, the backup is interrupted, and obnam complains that it GPG failed, because gpg-agent wasn't there. At first, I thought this was caused by low memory, or a full /tmp, since I run obnam on an odroid XU4. However, the pattern I start to see, and which seems to be confirmed by my log files is that this happens when obnam is running while I logout on that system (from ssh, by the way). I strongly suspect that this is caused by $CURSEWORD systemd and its $OTHER_CURSEWORD maintainer, who seems to find it ok to change default behaviour. $THIRD_CURSEWORD. Sorry about that. A few months ago, the systemd default behavior was changed to kill all remaining processes by a user once that user logs off. Which, obviously, could mean that a running obnam or gpg-agent would be killed as well. Apparently, setting KillUserProcesses=no in /etc/systemd/logind.conf is supposed to change this behaviour of systemd to the way unix systems have behaved in decades. I still need to wait for a lengthy backup to finish before I can logout of that system, and check if that actually solved the matter. Martin _______________________________________________ obnam-support mailing list obnam-support@obnam.org http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obnam-support-obnam.org