Return-Path: X-Original-To: distix@pieni.net Delivered-To: distix@pieni.net Received: from yaffle.pepperfish.net (yaffle.pepperfish.net [88.99.213.221]) by pieni.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 614C145B24 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 04:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from platypus.pepperfish.net (unknown [10.112.101.20]) by yaffle.pepperfish.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3972418B0; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:24:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from ip6-localhost.nat ([::1] helo=platypus.pepperfish.net) by platypus.pepperfish.net with esmtp (Exim 4.80 #2 (Debian)) id 1diCMS-0006aE-Ue; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:24:48 +0100 Received: from [10.112.101.21] (helo=mx3.pepperfish.net) by platypus.pepperfish.net with esmtps (Exim 4.80 #2 (Debian)) id 1diCMS-0006Zy-96 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:24:48 +0100 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by mx3.pepperfish.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1diCMP-0001qy-V4 for obnam-support@obnam.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:24:48 +0100 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1diCMB-0004kj-2U for obnam-support@obnam.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2017 06:24:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: obnam-support@obnam.org From: Adam Porter Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:24:24 -0500 Lines: 34 Message-ID: <87a82yzurr.fsf@alphapapa.net> References: <20170813184758.hbel3jxgultskktu@liw.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pepperfish-Transaction: 60f5-ac95-8284-6500 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 X-Spam-Score-int: -10 X-Spam-Bar: - X-Scanned-By: pepperfish.net, Thu, 17 Aug 2017 05:24:48 +0100 X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-1.1 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.5 PPF_USER_AGENT User-Agent: exists 0.0 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-ACL-Warn: message may be spam X-Scan-Signature: 8887c701ef4198506b295ef73f0e38b1 Subject: Re: [obnam-announce] Retiring Obnam X-BeenThere: obnam-support@obnam.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Obnam backup software discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: obnam-support-bounces@obnam.org Errors-To: obnam-support-bounces@obnam.org Lars, I am very sad to hear this, but I understand your decision. You have put an enormous amount of work into Obnam, and created a wonderful tool, but there are some problems that can't be solved perfectly without solving them, shall we say, suboptimally, first. ;) Such is the nature of cutting-edge software. Obnam is what it is because you put your heart into it, but if that's no longer the case, then it's time to move on. I appreciate that you have made the decision, rather than letting the project exist in limbo with false hope. Maybe someone else will carry it forward. As for the users, I think Obnam has helped inspire other tools that will carry on in spirit, if by another name. I don't know if any of them will match Obnam's attention to detail, documentation, testing tools, etc., but we will make do. Today I've been experimenting with restic, and so far I am impressed. A significant drawback is that it doesn't yet support compression (it's on their list), but it has impressive speed, and its expiration tools address one shortcoming of Obnam's implementation. borg is another tool I plan to try out, as well as zbackup. I wonder if we should start some kind of "Obnam users support group." I feel almost as if I've lost a trusted friend. :) But, as they say, all good things... I'm looking forward to seeing what projects you come up with in the future, Lars. Thanks for Obnam. Adam _______________________________________________ obnam-support mailing list obnam-support@obnam.org http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obnam-support-obnam.org