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+From: Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>
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+On Sun, 2018-04-01 at 11:24 +0000, Steve Kemp wrote:

+> > This morning I've been pondering on the following question: should I

+> > try to achieve "ready for others to use" as soon as possible, or

+> > should I concentrate on making sure all existing functionality is of

+> > high quality?

+>=20

+>   I think there are pros and cons to either approach, but one thing

+>  that I'm struggling with myself is the documentation.

+

+That's a very good point. Not much hope of other people using ick if

+they don't know how to do that.

+

+Of course, I will need help to provider or at least to review and test

+any installation and use documentation. I hope to update the

+architecture documentation on my own, but feedback on that will be

+most welcome as well.

+

+>   I would love to see an overview of all the moving parts:

+>=20

+>  * There is one ick-server / controller.

+>   * This is what it needs

+>   * This is how you configure it.is a=20

+>=20

+>  * There is one artifact server.

+>   * This is what it needs.

+>   * This is how you configure it.

+>=20

+>  * There are N-workers / worker-managers.

+>   * This is what they need.

+>   * This is how you configure them.

+>=20

+>   Right now I've spent more time than I'd enjoy getting the

+>  package(s) installed - in the end I resorted to your debian repository

+>  but even that wasn't sufficient.

+>=20

+>   Getting the artifact-server running, for example, required installation

+>  of `python3-requests`.  There was also some confusion about

+> `python-cliapp` being a dependency, but the code using `python3-cliapp`,

+>  the latter of which couldn't be installed without forcing, as it

+>  overwrote a file in the previous package.

+

+python-requests (for Python 2) is a build dependency, because the

+integration test suite still uses Python 2 and need python-requests.

+Ick itself, including the artifact store, uses python3-requests.

+

+The versions of cliapp (python-, python3-) on code.liw.fi work

+simultanously for me. There's an older version in stretch that

+conflicts with python3-cliapp from code.liw.fi, however. I think.

+Haven't tested recently.

+

+>   The ansible role helps, but the random start-scripts in the top-level

+>  are a distraction.

+

+Which scripts do you mean?

+

+> >  I suspect there is a security problem with the artifact server, but

+>  despite reading the architecture guide I'm missing the ability to

+>  confirm it.

+

+Er, yes, I think you're right. The paths should be sanitised. Thanks

+for pointing that out, I will fix asap.

+

+I'm sorry you failed to get ick working, but I'm glad to hear you

+tried. If you're willing to try again and tell me more about what

+doesn't work, I would be most grateful.
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