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authorDistix listener <distix@pieni.net>2016-02-26 09:55:07 +0100
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+Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:51:04 +0100
+From: Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@upsilon.cc>
+To: obnam-dev@obnam.org
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+Subject: injecting old backup generations
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+[ forwarding here a discussion started with Lars on IRC ]
+
+Hi all,
+ in migrating backup solutions to obnam, I've stumbled upon a use case
+that is not very well supported by obnam today: injecting old backups
+(say, ~5 years of history) as retrofitted obnam backup generations. That
+is a requirement in many cases, as you don't want to be forced to use
+different tools---obnam or your previous solution---depending on the age
+of the backup you want to explore.
+
+There are at least two problems to support this use case:
+
+a) faking paths: I want to be able to extract old backups in some dir,
+ and tell obnam to backup those dirs as if they were the root dir
+ (this is to avoid inconsistent path access when exploring pre-obnam
+ backups and post-obnam ones)
+
+b) faking timestamps: once extracted old backups, I want to inject them
+ telling obnam "consider this backup as dated $TIMESTAMP"
+
+Regarding (a), it ties to a more generally wanted obnam feature, i.e.,
+the ability to mangle paths. I was considering that (a) could be
+implemented by adding some sort of chroot support into obnam, but Lars
+told me he is pondering a more general "path mangling" support for
+obnam. Any pointers to the current status (spec, design, code) of that?
+
+Regarding (b), I haven't tried myself but I've been told that faketime
+works just fine. So that might be a way around this issue. OTOH the
+question remains of whether obnam would welcome to have a more specific
+"time override" flag as part of its native features.
+
+Also, there is the question of whether people would prefer adding two
+separate knobs that allow to do (a) and (b) independently, or rather add
+a high-level "inject old backup" feature.
+
+I'd love to hear your thoughts on this matter!
+Cheers.
+--
+Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . zack@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o
+Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o
+Former Debian Project Leader . . . . . @zacchiro . . . . o o o . . . o .
+« the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »
+
+_______________________________________________
+obnam-dev mailing list
+obnam-dev@obnam.org
+http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obnam-dev-obnam.org
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+To: obnam-dev@obnam.org
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+Sender: obnam-dev-bounces@obnam.org
+Errors-To: obnam-dev-bounces@obnam.org
+
+[ forwarding here a discussion started with Lars on IRC ]
+
+Hi all,
+ in migrating backup solutions to obnam, I've stumbled upon a use case
+that is not very well supported by obnam today: injecting old backups
+(say, ~5 years of history) as retrofitted obnam backup generations. That
+is a requirement in many cases, as you don't want to be forced to use
+different tools---obnam or your previous solution---depending on the age
+of the backup you want to explore.
+
+There are at least two problems to support this use case:
+
+a) faking paths: I want to be able to extract old backups in some dir,
+ and tell obnam to backup those dirs as if they were the root dir
+ (this is to avoid inconsistent path access when exploring pre-obnam
+ backups and post-obnam ones)
+
+b) faking timestamps: once extracted old backups, I want to inject them
+ telling obnam "consider this backup as dated $TIMESTAMP"
+
+Regarding (a), it ties to a more generally wanted obnam feature, i.e.,
+the ability to mangle paths. I was considering that (a) could be
+implemented by adding some sort of chroot support into obnam, but Lars
+told me he is pondering a more general "path mangling" support for
+obnam. Any pointers to the current status (spec, design, code) of that?
+
+Regarding (b), I haven't tried myself but I've been told that faketime
+works just fine. So that might be a way around this issue. OTOH the
+question remains of whether obnam would welcome to have a more specific
+"time override" flag as part of its native features.
+
+Also, there is the question of whether people would prefer adding two
+separate knobs that allow to do (a) and (b) independently, or rather add
+a high-level "inject old backup" feature.
+
+I'd love to hear your thoughts on this matter!
+Cheers.
+--
+Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . zack@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o
+Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o
+Former Debian Project Leader . . . . . @zacchiro . . . . o o o . . . o .
+« the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »
+
+_______________________________________________
+obnam-dev mailing list
+obnam-dev@obnam.org
+http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obnam-dev-obnam.org
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+- injecting old backup generations