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It +> seems silly to have everyone rewrite this thing when it is such an +> important behavior. + +I'd rather it was a separate, generic utility than something named so +people think it's related to Obnam, sorry. I'd be happy to add +pointers to it to Obnam documentation, and have the Obnam Debian +packaging suggest it. + +> > GUI programs such as video players are not generally composable. +> > Command line programs such as Obnam are. That's an important +> > distinction. +>=20 +> Sorry, when am I ever going to pipe obnam output to anything other than +> a log file (or less, sed, etc.)? Does obnam even read stdin? + +There are other forms of composability than pipes. For example, the +flock(1) utility, which creates a lock file while it runs a command, +and automatically releases it even if it crashes. That's the same +pattern as I suggest for the inhibition utility. + +That said, I expect Obnam to start reading from stdin some day. And +produce output to stdout. Both for using in pipelines. Examples: + +* Have Obnam read the list of files to back up from stdin, fed by, + say, find(1). + +* Have "obnam export-repository" produce a representation of a backup + repository that is independent of the backup storage format, and + "obnam import-repository" read such a representation to create a new + repository. This would be quite useful for repository conversion. + +--=20 +Schr=F6dinger's backup hypothesis: the condition of any backup is +undefined until a restore is attempted. -- andrewsh + +--nSQp8DZZn7gZbDHt +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1 + +iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWeC/zAAoJEGwvphbseiAxE5kQALN8Q8HOdWIQ8EbiOkB4Moq+ +kAB82LQS65/naMxFvpzS8pMJ6BUe1u87UydxWAC9/Ztd7SqczHfu+czk7Wswn7Py ++C+XDnjZ4X0gfPDlgOUbfQ4NOz0CY6+bw/WgI91MfTkgmZ7mqsM8hQ0lE7ZqsABt +aVuNEMGzItWe9PAc5VPVCOrvNJBBvRn0E4/kbaG3tLStRewdbtJeSZyXMLIl97OM +VwGKfBu5fwkyJMzBbf5oR98WN+VT9RCOM4OuLNFWEa67q/0gc8du37GRJbrn9hkx +G8KoG1v0Bj3rK/GBZdLWOfg1EUOJQyeND5swAjIR6kVSDWVHPOq4njD+az/evDSb +rYCzVdVuaYUDE8njE/yl05e+SvjaHv6szbqjJl+sRz2vy2Mz7nl1IVuy4ppnTE+m +YKmeL3BD8kwB3yzE5kfTNSgQRnR1mQGRrXt/HDQ5XVhg6IO9uSbQBSXV2ZOCJ1pk +zUsQrakBZzVKJuKGqL+t4yzKW8eleGUuz2b0rDSC4a5BL3qd86MXPj8knuN5K42x +Q2i6d88ah2r4RwiQarC2CaSyu9o5UW2xvTwIHzioIfGA5S0h3UTPmSYKjgNnvlsn +e+vpIfywAIsMRLLQT051tp0MuLyhIjju4j/oSTqkY1UXasWgX7dW7lF+M0pnve5x +g5fSf4XifFywSMsEZiqr +=bctk +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--nSQp8DZZn7gZbDHt-- + + +--===============8250331839199722307== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +obnam-dev mailing list +obnam-dev@obnam.org +http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/obnam-dev-obnam.org + +--===============8250331839199722307==-- + |