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2016-07-11 13:45 EDT, Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi>:

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:31:41AM -0400, Remi Rampin wrote:
> > -from distutils.core import setup, Extension
> > +from setuptools import setup, Extension
>
> Can you explain why using setuptools instead of distutils? Let's
> assume I am quite ignorant about PyPI and pip and the various Python
> attemmpts at build tools.
>

setuptools has become a standard for Python packages and if people have pip
installed, you can assume they have setuptools. In particular, setuptools
is recommended by the Packaging User Guide [1].

> +os.chdir(os.path.abspath(os.path.dirname(__file__)))
>
> Why is this line needed?
>

If running the setup.py script from another working directory (pip install
doesn't do that, but when using -e or calling it manually it can happen),
the installation will fail. I just put this in all the time. Else you would
have to fix all the subprocess calls and file opens to compute the correct
path (i.e. calling git-ls-files, opening files in generate_troff...)

You said the larch name has been taken by another project in PyPI. I
> assume that means the above reference to larch needs to be changed.
>
> Which reminds me: I guess this Obnam PyPi/pip preparation isn't really
> useful until the dependencies are on PyPI already?


Yes, all of the dependencies would have to be put there. I didn't rename
larch yet because I didn't know what to rename it to (larch is taken [2]
but not python-larch, ...)

[1]: https://packaging.python.org/current/#packaging-tool-recommendations
[2]: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/larch

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2016=
-07-11 13:45 EDT, Lars Wirzenius <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:li=
w@liw.fi" target=3D"_blank">liw@liw.fi</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<span class=3D"">On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:31:41AM -0400, Remi Rampin wrot=
e:<br>
&gt; -from distutils.core import setup, Extension<br>
&gt; +from setuptools import setup, Extension<br>
<br>
</span>Can you explain why using setuptools instead of distutils? Let&#39;s=
<br>
assume I am quite ignorant about PyPI and pip and the various Python<br>
attemmpts at build tools.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>setuptools ha=
s become a standard for Python packages and if people have pip installed, y=
ou can assume they have setuptools. In particular, setuptools is recommende=
d by the Packaging User Guide [1].</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;borde=
r-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">&gt=
; +os.chdir(os.path.abspath(os.path.dirname(__file__)))<br>
<br>
Why is this line needed?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If running the=
 setup.py script from another working directory (pip install doesn&#39;t do=
 that, but when using -e or calling it manually it can happen), the install=
ation will fail. I just put this in all the time. Else you would have to fi=
x all the subprocess calls and file opens to compute the correct path (i.e.=
 calling git-ls-files, opening files in generate_troff...)</div><div><br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex">You said the larch name has been taken by another proj=
ect in PyPI. I<br>
assume that means the above reference to larch needs to be changed.<br>
<br>
Which reminds me: I guess this Obnam PyPi/pip preparation isn&#39;t really<=
br>
useful until the dependencies are on PyPI already?</blockquote><div><br></d=
iv><div>Yes, all of the dependencies would have to be put there. I didn&#39=
;t rename larch yet because I didn&#39;t know what to rename it to (larch i=
s taken [2] but not python-larch, ...)</div></div><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra">[1]:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://packaging.python.org/current/#pack=
aging-tool-recommendations">https://packaging.python.org/current/#packaging=
-tool-recommendations</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">[2]:=C2=A0<a href=
=3D"https://pypi.python.org/pypi/larch">https://pypi.python.org/pypi/larch<=
/a></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Be=
st</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">--=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
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