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On 7/24/16 05:57, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 02:10:36PM -0400, R=E9mi Rampin wrote:
>> setuptools has become a standard for Python packages and if people
>> have pip
>> installed, you can assume they have setuptools. In particular, setupto=
ols
>> is recommended by the Packaging User Guide [1].
> Oh good, yet another build depenendy, then.
Moving things out of the standard library is how the Python ecosystem
supports software. Everything else already depends on setuptools, and
pip comes with it. I'm not sure it is that much of an issue, but if you
do, this patch can definitely be reworked a little bit; keep in mind
that on every system out there, this will still use setuptools, since
pip monkey-patches distutils to call setuptools.
> I don't feel that's a thing I care to support. If we are to have that
> line, then at least it needs to have a comment to explain it.
>
> If that use case for setup.py is something that should be supported,
> it should be supported by setuptools directly, not by inserting code
> into every setup.py file ever written.
I'm sorry if I haven't been clear on this. setuptools and pip totally
support this, your custom commands do not. If you don't use relative
paths in your code, that assumes that the current directory is the one
where setup.py lives, this line becomes unnecessary.
> I don't particularly care about the name on PyPI. It's a flat
> namespace, and this is one of the problems that results from that.
>
> However, since there's no point in putting in any of this PyPI support
> into Obnam before its dependencies, I am afraid I'm going to drop this
> now.
>
> I do not like PyPI, and I do not like anything about how the Python
> community distributes code. I don't want to have to deal with it, and
> this thread has already exceeded my tolerance level for PyPI.
Got it. The patches are here if someone else wants to do that. I myself
install from Debian.
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