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[[!meta title="Iteration planning: September 11th"]]
[[!tag meeting]]
[[!meta date="Sat, 11 Sep 2021 11:31:20 +0300"]]

[[!toc levels=2]]

# Review of actions from last meeting

- Daniel to talk to Serbitar to arrange Subplot discussion at BBQ
  - Serbitar wasn't there, so this didn't happen. As the BBQ has now
    happened, we aren't carrying this over.

# Review of the iteration that has ended

We skipped the meeting two weeks ago due to Daniel being at the Debian
BBQ.

[[!milestone 34]] had the following issued closed:

- [[!issue 202]] -- Test suite assumes cargo puts binaries in target/debug
- [[!issue 212]] -- Doesn't handle all markup in a document title
- [[!issue 217]] -- Arch diagram implies that step functions are always in Python

The following issues remain open and are carried over to the next
iteration:

- [[!issue 96]] -- Error for "do not understand binding" should say in
  what file the not-understood binding use is found
- [[!issue 196]] -- Python runner stops on first failure
- [[!issue 198]] -- Unify language handling for multi-impl-lang test suites
- [[!issue 207]] -- Release process is too manual, CI build of release .deb changes files
- [[!issue 213]] -- "Failure: document has no title" when there's duplicate keys
- [[!issue 218]] -- Automatable parts of release process are manual
- [[!issue 219]] -- Needs a release after 0.2.2 to test release automation

We have made reasonable progress. Although the main task for this goal
is not yet finished, Daniel has continued to make good progress toward
it. You can track it at
`https://gitlab.com/subplot/subplot/-/tree/multi-lang-docs` (branch
merged, link disabled 2021-10-06).

We moved the remaining issues, and the new release automation issue to the next
milestone ([[!milestone 35]]) and then closed off this iteration.

# Review of the repositories

There are two in-progress MR in the `subplot` repository

- [[!mr 208]] -- Draft: Add an experiment to use a non-Pandoc parser
  for Markdown
  - This is a proof of concept, prototype to see if it is feasible to
    move away from Pandoc for parsing Markdown input. It seems to be,
    but it needs more work. This is relevant for making Subplot
    attractive to other projects by reducing the minimal set of
    dependencies. Pandoc is pretty big, a pure-Rust crate for only
    Markdown parsing is comparatively small.
- [[!mr 210]] -- Implement polyglot bindings
  - This was opened just before the meeting; Lars will review later.

The `subplot-container-images` and `subplot-web` repositories do not
have MRs or extra branches.

We triggered the pipeline to build the container image for Subplot.
All `subplot` pipelines are clean.

# Current goal (goal 2)

Subplot provides a set of libraries with identical capabilities in each of the
supported languages. Python remains a supported language. Rust is promoted to
supported-language status. Subplot will be tested with all supported languages.
In addition, any quality of life improvements which can be done shall be done.
This goal will be considered complete when a release of Subplot has been made
with the unified language handling support complete.

# Issue review

Last time we all reviewed all the open issues, except those tagged
`someday-maybe`. We updated the issues as we reviewed with any new
comments or decisions. Notably we made the following changes:

- [[!issue 96]] -- Error for "do not understand binding" should say in
  what file the not-understood binding use is found
  - link from Daniel:
    <https://gitlab.com/subplot/subplot/-/commit/f6137e18d219fd27becd908a2f47444a9adc55e0>
- [[!issue 205]] -- Newer pandoc does not have `--filter
  pandoc-citeproc` but rather `--citeproc`
  - promote to current goal: the newer Pandoc is available in other
    Linux distributions already, even if it's not in Debian
- [[!issue 220]] -- Generated Rust test programs are hard to debug
  - we will look into using the `tracing` crate for this
  - we created the `subplotlib` label, added that
  - we promoted this to the current goal: Rust as a fully supported
    language implies that it's convenient to use it for test programs
- [[!issue 221]] -- Command line tool has insufficient logging
  - label labels `helpwanted`, `mentor`, `unhelpful`
  - changed the title
- [[!issue 222]] -- Typeset output could indicate scenario snippets
  are a continuation of the scenario and not a new scenario
  - updated labels
- [[!issue 223]] -- lib/runcmd lacks a generic "given an installed {name}" step
  - labelled `actively-discussed`
- [[!issue 224]] -- Logging feature needs tests
  - updated labels
- [[!issue 227]] -- Doesn't support a workflow where codegen is used
  from build.rs
  - updated labels
- [[!issue 229]] -- Licensing of Subplot libraries and subplotlib needs to be clarified
  - promoted to current goal
- [[!issue 230]] -- Would be nice to typeset some captures using monospace
  - added the `hard`  label
- [[!issue 231]] -- lib/runcmd doesn't have a generic "given an
  installed {name}" step
  - closed as a duplicate of [[!issue 223]]
- [[!issue 232]] -- Windows and macos need to be supported as first
  class targets
  - re-titled
- [[!issue 233]] -- Unclear if Mac is supported
  - now duplicate of [[!issue 232]], closed
- [[!issue 234]] -- Docgen and codegen aren't easily available as
  library calls
  - subsumed by [[!issue 227]]

# Plan for next iteration

We opened [[!milestone 35]] to cover this iteration, with the
following issues:


- [[!issue 96]] -- Error for "do not understand binding" should say in
  what file the not-understood binding use is found
- [[!issue 196]] -- Python runner stops on first failure
- [[!issue 198]] -- Unify language handling for multi-impl-lang test suites
- [[!issue 205]] -- Newer pandoc does not have `--filter
  pandoc-citeproc` but rather `--citeproc`
- [[!issue 207]] -- Release process is too manual, CI build of release
  .deb changes files
- [[!issue 213]] -- "Failure: document has no title" when there's
  duplicate keys
  - Lars will at least look at the suggestion from Alexander, to
    improve the error message; a proper fix may involve changing the
    parser for input files
- [[!issue 218]] -- Automatable parts of release process are manual
- [[!issue 219]] -- Needs a release after 0.2.2 to test release
  automation

# Other business

- [[!issue 119]]: We agreed that we should wait until subplot is no
  longer likely to make breaking changes, before we ask for inclusion
  in Debian
- We don't feel up to doing a whole-code-base review yet, or to switch
  to using an issue based agenda.
- We added the Sequoia project to the reach-out list for goal 2.
- We decided to start a decision log: this is for big decisions,
  often architectural ones. We'll do it in a `DECISIONS.md` file in
  the source tree.
- We are not yet ready to try `cargo release` or to add a media
  repository.
- We discussed marketing Subplot: what are our important points to
  bring up in discussions about Subplot? what not talk about? for
  different audiences? Good examples of subplots are going to be
  needed. Otherwise we don't know yet, but will continue to think and
  discuss this.
- We discussed debugging of generated Rust programs, and added a
  comment to [[!issue 220]].
- We discussed strategy for achieving [success][] for Subplot. We
  achieved consensus that for now we should try to drive adoption.
  Contributors will hopefully follow from that. We will aim to offer a
  talk or lightning talk at FOSDEM about Subplot, and possibly other
  conferences as well next year.
- Lars will make changes to Subplot to make it easier for the
  Sequoia-PGP project to adopt Subplot for integration testing. This
  will at least include using a Rust crate for parsing Markdown, at
  least for codegen. The parser should eventually be used for docgen
  as well, but that can happen later. Lars may also work on making it
  easier to use codegen from a `build.rs` file, which may involve
  adding a new crate (`subplot-build`) that can be used as a
  build-dependency.

[success]: https://subplot.liw.fi/success/


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